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Re: EW's Back to Basics or semi-open

Postby Loose Canon on Thu May 02, 2024 1:42 pm

Are you going to say whether it's semi open?
Has there been a previous semi open game I can review rather than ask noobish questions?
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Re: EW's Back to Basics or semi-open

Postby SoN!c on Thu May 02, 2024 3:08 pm

Loose Canon wrote:Are you going to say whether it's semi open?
Has there been a previous semi open game I can review rather than ask noobish questions?


(ˌsɛmɪˈəʊpən ) adjective. partially open. a semiopen game/election/adoption/valve

Noun
Semi-Open Game (plural Semi-Open Games)

Also a type of chess opening, in which White plays 1.e4 (moves their king's pawn to the fourth rank with their first move) and Black breaks symmetry by replying with a move other than 1...e5.

Knowing EW its partially a type of chess opening fun meme but partially a "semi-open" meaning a semi-closed game invite for others

because Semi open is just open, but with some restrictions..

So no, there has not been a previous semi open game you can review rather than ask noobish questions.. but not asking noobish questions is part of the semi-open state of mind you wanna have here


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Re: EW's Back to Basics or semi-open

Postby Votanic on Thu May 02, 2024 3:49 pm

https://mafiagg.fandom.com/wiki/Semi-open_Setup_List

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Re: EW's Back to Basics or semi-open

Postby Extreme Ways on Thu May 02, 2024 4:03 pm

Loose Canon wrote:Are you going to say whether it's semi open?
Has there been a previous semi open game I can review rather than ask noobish questions?

A semi-open setup is a setup in which some roles are "open", and some aren't.

In the setup we're likely to play, D6, I roll a six-sided die 6 times. See here for details: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=D6

Say I roll 1 3 3 5 6 4

1-3 means investigative roles. I rolled this 3 times, so town gets a Role Cop.
4-5 means protective roles. I rolled this 2 times, so town gets a Doctor.
6 means killing roles. I rolled this once, so town gets a Vigilante.

I do the same for mafia roles, where I roll a die equal to the amount of town power roles - 1. Each roll is a mafia power role.

So why is this called semi-open?
1) Say Mafia has no power roles. They know town only has 1 power role, and that this must be a cop.
2) Say you are a Town Jailkeeper. You know 4-5 was rolled 4 times, so town has either a 1-shot vig and an innocent child; or a role oracle and no killing role, or a 2-shot vigilante and no investigative role.

Both mafia and town are thus partially informed about the setup, and the setup becomes more known the more players are forced to claim or die.

I'm personally more fond of matrix setups, but couldn't find one with a reasonable player count that I also like.
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Re: EW's Back to Basics or semi-open

Postby fusibaseball on Thu May 02, 2024 5:24 pm

In if you're still accepting applicants
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Re: EW's Back to Basics or semi-open

Postby pmchugh on Thu May 02, 2024 5:32 pm

Extreme Ways wrote:
Loose Canon wrote:Are you going to say whether it's semi open?
Has there been a previous semi open game I can review rather than ask noobish questions?

A semi-open setup is a setup in which some roles are "open", and some aren't.

In the setup we're likely to play, D6, I roll a six-sided die 6 times. See here for details: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=D6

Say I roll 1 3 3 5 6 4

1-3 means investigative roles. I rolled this 3 times, so town gets a Role Cop.
4-5 means protective roles. I rolled this 2 times, so town gets a Doctor.
6 means killing roles. I rolled this once, so town gets a Vigilante.

I do the same for mafia roles, where I roll a die equal to the amount of town power roles - 1. Each roll is a mafia power role.

So why is this called semi-open?
1) Say Mafia has no power roles. They know town only has 1 power role, and that this must be a cop.
2) Say you are a Town Jailkeeper. You know 4-5 was rolled 4 times, so town has either a 1-shot vig and an innocent child; or a role oracle and no killing role, or a 2-shot vigilante and no investigative role.

Both mafia and town are thus partially informed about the setup, and the setup becomes more known the more players are forced to claim or die.

I'm personally more fond of matrix setups, but couldn't find one with a reasonable player count that I also like.


So if you rolled 6 1s, you would get a cop who is informed a random player is town, and no mafia power roles?
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Re: EW's Back to Basics or semi-open

Postby ghxstfolk on Thu May 02, 2024 7:04 pm

wheeeee
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Re: EW's Back to Basics or semi-open

Postby Votanic on Thu May 02, 2024 7:27 pm

ghxstfolk wrote:wheeeee
mountainous my beloved i'm in

raithe? Is that you?
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Re: EW's Back to Basics or semi-open

Postby Extreme Ways on Fri May 03, 2024 7:08 am

Votanic wrote:
ghxstfolk wrote:wheeeee
mountainous my beloved i'm in

raithe? Is that you?

It's my partner.

I'll send a PM out soon where people can vote between two setups, and start the game in about 48 hours.
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Re: EW's Back to Basics or semi-open

Postby Charle on Fri May 03, 2024 7:09 am

Extreme Ways wrote:
Loose Canon wrote:Are you going to say whether it's semi open?
Has there been a previous semi open game I can review rather than ask noobish questions?

A semi-open setup is a setup in which some roles are "open", and some aren't.

In the setup we're likely to play, D6, I roll a six-sided die 6 times. See here for details: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=D6

Say I roll 1 3 3 5 6 4

1-3 means investigative roles. I rolled this 3 times, so town gets a Role Cop.
4-5 means protective roles. I rolled this 2 times, so town gets a Doctor.
6 means killing roles. I rolled this once, so town gets a Vigilante.

I do the same for mafia roles, where I roll a die equal to the amount of town power roles - 1. Each roll is a mafia power role.

So why is this called semi-open?
1) Say Mafia has no power roles. They know town only has 1 power role, and that this must be a cop.
2) Say you are a Town Jailkeeper. You know 4-5 was rolled 4 times, so town has either a 1-shot vig and an innocent child; or a role oracle and no killing role, or a 2-shot vigilante and no investigative role.

Both mafia and town are thus partially informed about the setup, and the setup becomes more known the more players are forced to claim or die.

I'm personally more fond of matrix setups, but couldn't find one with a reasonable player count that I also like.


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Re: EW's Back to Basics or semi-open

Postby Charle on Fri May 03, 2024 7:13 am

Extreme Ways wrote:My time to host, after having subbed, specced, and subbed out!

Depending on the amount of signups, I will be running a 15p mountainous (12 Vanilla Town, 3 Mafia Goon) or a semi-open setup which fits the playercount. Most likely Mafia will have 24/7 access to chat. I'm going to host things slightly different, so pay attention! In addition to the basic rules below, If no majority is reached at the end of the day, the player with the most votes is lynched instead. In the case of ties, a random player between the tied players will be eliminated.

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Signups:
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EW we are 16 players, Loose and Traf have the same numbers. Maybe they want to share a seat?

Amazing that King and Kong are always right after each other :D
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Re: EW's Back to Basics or semi-open

Postby Extreme Ways on Fri May 03, 2024 7:16 am

Typical mafia mod...

ghxst will be sub
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Re: EW's Back to Basics or semi-open

Postby swang918 on Fri May 03, 2024 8:51 am

So mountainous just means like extremely vanilla? Im all for it
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Re: EW's Back to Basics or semi-open

Postby Kingm on Fri May 03, 2024 8:59 am

Charle wrote:Amazing that King and Kong are always right after each other :D


Maybe Kong is of scandinavian origins, like here in Norway in Norwegian the word for king is kong, so our king is Kong Harald
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Re: EW's Back to Basics or semi-open

Postby Ragian on Sat May 04, 2024 1:19 am

In Denmark, ironically, King Kong is Kong Kong :mrgreen:
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Re: EW's Back to Basics or semi-open

Postby SoN!c on Sat May 04, 2024 2:15 pm

i can be a sub too if needed*


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