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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.4 (Upd 11-3)pg28 Graphics Stamp??

Postby natty dread on Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:09 pm

Oh noes... :(
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.4 (Upd 11-3)pg28 Graphics Stamp??

Postby ender516 on Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:19 pm

I feel your pain.

On the other hand, I am intrigued by the "CC via Wii" comment. I have wondered about doing that, but I didn't have high-speed internet until the free browser offer for the Wii had expired, so I have never bothered to get it. Is it painful to access CC via the Wii? Will I lose BOB?
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.4 (Upd 11-3)pg28 Graphics Stamp??

Postby natty dread on Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:09 am

Will I lose BOB?


Do you have Firefox on your WII, with Greasemonkey installed? Can you install scripts on your WII?
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.4 (Upd 11-3)pg28 Graphics Stamp??

Postby ender516 on Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:52 pm

natty_dread wrote:
Will I lose BOB?


Do you have Firefox on your WII, with Greasemonkey installed? Can you install scripts on your WII?

No, and I doubt that Firefox is available for Wii, unless someone wants to allay my suspicions.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.4 (Upd 11-3)pg28 Graphics Stamp??

Postby RedBaron0 on Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:18 pm

Wii has is own broswer, Opera, I believe its called. You can't download firefox, so no BOB.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.4 (Upd 11-3)pg28 Graphics Stamp??

Postby RedBaron0 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:07 am

Back up and running, new computer. Give me a little bit to reset stuff and work out any kinks in my new system. Weekend at the latest.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.4 (Upd 11-3)pg28 Graphics Stamp??

Postby cairnswk on Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:49 am

RedBaron0 wrote:Bad news... My computer has totally crapped out. ... (or tossed out in favor of a spiffy new one :) ) There won't be any updates. ...

Hope you get a spiffy new one as earyl Christmas pressent...good luck. :)
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby RedBaron0 on Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:20 am

Version 9.6
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After a bit of spinning my wheels and some unforeseen events... We've got an update.

Oki-shoto territory shape changed to be 2 islands with the army circle moved between the islands. XML updated to accommodate the change of position.
The shadow around the land has been changed to a simple drop shadow which is also under the sea connections.
The Compas rose has been toned down a bit, but is darker now with a white drop shadow behind.
Orientation of the mountains has be reversed to put the lit side of the mountain facing the light source of the map, the left top corner.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby Industrial Helix on Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:02 pm

I think I've finally put my finger on what's been bothering me about this map and I think it is the font. I think it gets conflicted in with the raised areas on the texture of the map. Try on a couple spaces writing it in black with a light color glow, like the Bushido saying, or try a dark glow on the white text. Use your judgment, if either looks like an improvement run with it. If not, don't worry about it.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby porkenbeans on Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:01 pm

Industrial Helix wrote:I think I've finally put my finger on what's been bothering me about this map and I think it is the font. I think it gets conflicted in with the raised areas on the texture of the map. Try on a couple spaces writing it in black with a light color glow, like the Bushido saying, or try a dark glow on the white text. Use your judgment, if either looks like an improvement run with it. If not, don't worry about it.
"dark glow" ?
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby Industrial Helix on Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:09 pm

porkenbeans wrote:
Industrial Helix wrote:I think I've finally put my finger on what's been bothering me about this map and I think it is the font. I think it gets conflicted in with the raised areas on the texture of the map. Try on a couple spaces writing it in black with a light color glow, like the Bushido saying, or try a dark glow on the white text. Use your judgment, if either looks like an improvement run with it. If not, don't worry about it.
"dark glow" ?


lol... as in outer glow effect in black
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby natty dread on Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:22 pm

"dark glow" ?


In other words, shading.


...actually, "dark glow" is the long lost brother of "blacklight"... :D
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby porkenbeans on Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:16 pm

Industrial Helix wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:
Industrial Helix wrote:I think I've finally put my finger on what's been bothering me about this map and I think it is the font. I think it gets conflicted in with the raised areas on the texture of the map. Try on a couple spaces writing it in black with a light color glow, like the Bushido saying, or try a dark glow on the white text. Use your judgment, if either looks like an improvement run with it. If not, don't worry about it.
"dark glow" ?


lol... as in outer glow effect in black
Ah, ...drop shadow. :P
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby the.killing.44 on Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:26 pm

porkenbeans wrote:
Industrial Helix wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:
Industrial Helix wrote:I think I've finally put my finger on what's been bothering me about this map and I think it is the font. I think it gets conflicted in with the raised areas on the texture of the map. Try on a couple spaces writing it in black with a light color glow, like the Bushido saying, or try a dark glow on the white text. Use your judgment, if either looks like an improvement run with it. If not, don't worry about it.
"dark glow" ?


lol... as in outer glow effect in black
Ah, ...drop shadow. :P

No, black outer glow…

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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby porkenbeans on Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:16 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:
Industrial Helix wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:
Industrial Helix wrote:I think I've finally put my finger on what's been bothering me about this map and I think it is the font. I think it gets conflicted in with the raised areas on the texture of the map. Try on a couple spaces writing it in black with a light color glow, like the Bushido saying, or try a dark glow on the white text. Use your judgment, if either looks like an improvement run with it. If not, don't worry about it.
"dark glow" ?


lol... as in outer glow effect in black
Ah, ...drop shadow. :P

No, black outer glow…

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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:10 pm

looking good RedBaron0 =D>
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby RedBaron0 on Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:46 pm

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Okay tried it a little bit with outer glow. Check out Nagano (Black text white glow) and Fuji (White text black glow) I can fiddle withe some the numbers too, the glow for both these is at 60%; 3 pixels bigger than the text.

I actually like both so I can go either way.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby porkenbeans on Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:57 pm

FUJI. :D You can also try keeping the drop shadow. just crank it up a bit. Then add an outside blk. stroke. The drop shadow raises it up and makes it stand out. ;)
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby RedBaron0 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:14 am

The drop shadow I have on the the rest of the map is pretty much as high as it'll go opacity wise. I can make it disperse more though, which will likely make the text harder to read.

Lets see what a couple more people think and I'll make a version with all the territory text in that way.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby porkenbeans on Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:20 am

RedBaron0 wrote:The drop shadow I have on the the rest of the map is pretty much as high as it'll go opacity wise. I can make it disperse more though, which will likely make the text harder to read.

Lets see what a couple more people think and I'll make a version with all the territory text in that way.
If that is as high as it goes, maybe try pumping up the choke on it.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby ender516 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:42 am

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Okay tried it a little bit with outer glow. Check out Nagano (Black text white glow) and Fuji (White text black glow) I can fiddle withe some the numbers too, the glow for both these is at 60%; 3 pixels bigger than the text.

I actually like both so I can go either way.

I didn't really have a problem with the text before, but the new text on Fuji may be a good idea for Hokkaido and Shikoku, where the white text does not contrast with the yellow backgrounds. I don't think it will hurt anywhere else, so it would likely be worth a look at a version with all the text done that way.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby Industrial Helix on Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:45 pm

Yeah, Fuji is the way to go. Maybe disperse the outer glow just a tad though.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby RedBaron0 on Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:03 am

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Here's the whole big map with the outer glow on all the territories, in black, white text, 60 % opacity, 2 pixels larger than the original. The mini-map text is still in drop shadow if you want to compare the difference.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby Industrial Helix on Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:25 am

I think its an improvement though I think you ought to up the size by about 1 or 2... maybe 3. Just to diffuse the outer lines a bit.

The minimap looks good to me though, I say just leave it.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V9.6 (Upd 11-14)pg29 Graphics Stamp??

Postby RedBaron0 on Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:39 am

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I dunno if I like that. I've tried it with Asahikawa, compare it to the nearby territories. It's 4 pixels bigger instead of 2.
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