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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby Leehar on Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:47 am

Wasn't it mentioned earlier that there are should at least be 6 or 7 mafia? And we've only got 1 or 2 so far with half the guys in the game gone? I can understand wanting to lynch Vic, but why chase a 'guaranteed non-mafia' pretty much? It just seems a bit counter-productive right now?
He says hes willing to work with us, and the mafia are the real bad guys, so is it not better to move on other leads? Heck, he could just work as another distraction for the mafia since if I understand correctly he could turn some of them to cult as well?
Idk, the numbers game doesn't look good to me with only a mafia framer and maniac gone just yet, so it'd could be useful to keep a claimed third party we know around if he doesn't present a danger right now.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby strike wolf on Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:57 am

Leehar wrote:Wasn't it mentioned earlier that there are should at least be 6 or 7 mafia? And we've only got 1 or 2 so far with half the guys in the game gone? I can understand wanting to lynch Vic, but why chase a 'guaranteed non-mafia' pretty much? It just seems a bit counter-productive right now?
He says hes willing to work with us, and the mafia are the real bad guys, so is it not better to move on other leads? Heck, he could just work as another distraction for the mafia since if I understand correctly he could turn some of them to cult as well?
Idk, the numbers game doesn't look good to me with only a mafia framer and maniac gone just yet, so it'd could be useful to keep a claimed third party we know around if he doesn't present a danger right now.


A cult recruiter is very dangerous. They usually start out by themselves or maybe with one other cult member but can grow very quickly. As far as mafia, we are looking into other leads but I would rather go with a guaranteed cult recruiter lynch than a possible mafia lynch. As far as Victor promising to help town...his actions thus far have been actions that have benefited himself. They may have benefited town as a side effect on one occasion but he used that to gain trust from town to keep him alive. His win condition is his own and his motives are his own. I do not trust this scenario to let the cult recruiter go.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:38 pm

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Cult is cult is cult. You are claiming that being a hipster cult means you're survivors... but that doesn't really shake. If so, we should just keep you alive and make sure you recruit all of us, so we can all win lol. For all we know, you saw Edoc's status of survivor once he was expatriated from you cult and decided to claim the same status.


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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby VioIet on Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:06 pm

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VioIet wrote:I just want to mention that JenBroness is no longer on CC if I recall correctly.

He was in my stool pigeon mafia game, and had never even opened his role pm. I had to replace him early on Day 1. So we probably won't be getting anywhere by starting a wagon on him.

Replaced by usAir, so no real excuse for continued silence.


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Re: Memebase Mafia [16/31] Night 4 - Deeper goes into you!

Postby chapcrap on Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:18 pm

pancakemix wrote:Metsfanmax is a BOSS. After 3 days he will determine a lynch by declaring who he wants executed.

That was written by the mod 8 days ago.

Is there going to be a decision?
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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby safariguy5 on Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:06 pm

Leehar wrote:Wasn't it mentioned earlier that there are should at least be 6 or 7 mafia? And we've only got 1 or 2 so far with half the guys in the game gone? I can understand wanting to lynch Vic, but why chase a 'guaranteed non-mafia' pretty much? It just seems a bit counter-productive right now?
He says hes willing to work with us, and the mafia are the real bad guys, so is it not better to move on other leads? Heck, he could just work as another distraction for the mafia since if I understand correctly he could turn some of them to cult as well?
Idk, the numbers game doesn't look good to me with only a mafia framer and maniac gone just yet, so it'd could be useful to keep a claimed third party we know around if he doesn't present a danger right now.

That number was speculated based on game size. Since we have a cult recruiter, that number must be much lower. 6 or 7 only works without 3rd party cult possibilities.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby edocsil on Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:42 am

safariguy5 wrote:
Leehar wrote:Wasn't it mentioned earlier that there are should at least be 6 or 7 mafia? And we've only got 1 or 2 so far with half the guys in the game gone? I can understand wanting to lynch Vic, but why chase a 'guaranteed non-mafia' pretty much? It just seems a bit counter-productive right now?
He says hes willing to work with us, and the mafia are the real bad guys, so is it not better to move on other leads? Heck, he could just work as another distraction for the mafia since if I understand correctly he could turn some of them to cult as well?
Idk, the numbers game doesn't look good to me with only a mafia framer and maniac gone just yet, so it'd could be useful to keep a claimed third party we know around if he doesn't present a danger right now.

That number was speculated based on game size. Since we have a cult recruiter, that number must be much lower. 6 or 7 only works without 3rd party cult possibilities.


Yeah I would say 4 tops. Given all the kills there could be a SK on top of it all tho...
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Re: Memebase Mafia [16/31] Night 4 - Deeper goes into you!

Postby VioIet on Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:58 pm

chapcrap wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Metsfanmax is a BOSS. After 3 days he will determine a lynch by declaring who he wants executed.

That was written by the mod 8 days ago.

Is there going to be a decision?



Well, I logically assumed that 3 days, meant three real life days. So, could the mod have possibly meant Day 8?

I know that doesn't seem to make much sense, but its a viable explanation for why Mets hasn't declared a lynch yet.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [16/31] Night 4 - Deeper goes into you!

Postby strike wolf on Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:07 pm

VioIet wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Metsfanmax is a BOSS. After 3 days he will determine a lynch by declaring who he wants executed.

That was written by the mod 8 days ago.

Is there going to be a decision?



Well, I logically assumed that 3 days, meant three real life days. So, could the mod have possibly meant Day 8?

I know that doesn't seem to make much sense, but its a viable explanation for why Mets hasn't declared a lynch yet.


I think the mod set up 3 days as the minimum deadline. It WOULD definitely be nice to hear from Mets though.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [16/31] Night 4 - Deeper goes into you!

Postby chapcrap on Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:35 pm

strike wolf wrote:
VioIet wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Metsfanmax is a BOSS. After 3 days he will determine a lynch by declaring who he wants executed.

That was written by the mod 8 days ago.

Is there going to be a decision?



Well, I logically assumed that 3 days, meant three real life days. So, could the mod have possibly meant Day 8?

I know that doesn't seem to make much sense, but its a viable explanation for why Mets hasn't declared a lynch yet.


I think the mod set up 3 days as the minimum deadline. It WOULD definitely be nice to hear from Mets though.

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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby / on Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:30 pm

edocsil wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:
Leehar wrote:Wasn't it mentioned earlier that there are should at least be 6 or 7 mafia? And we've only got 1 or 2 so far with half the guys in the game gone? I can understand wanting to lynch Vic, but why chase a 'guaranteed non-mafia' pretty much? It just seems a bit counter-productive right now?
He says hes willing to work with us, and the mafia are the real bad guys, so is it not better to move on other leads? Heck, he could just work as another distraction for the mafia since if I understand correctly he could turn some of them to cult as well?
Idk, the numbers game doesn't look good to me with only a mafia framer and maniac gone just yet, so it'd could be useful to keep a claimed third party we know around if he doesn't present a danger right now.

That number was speculated based on game size. Since we have a cult recruiter, that number must be much lower. 6 or 7 only works without 3rd party cult possibilities.


Yeah I would say 4 tops. Given all the kills there could be a SK on top of it all tho...

Are you joking, insinuating a second SK who hasn't done anything, or indicating some sort of strange parallel dimension where the serial killer didn't die night 3...? Either Way ME GUSTA :D
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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby edocsil on Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:40 pm

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safariguy5 wrote:
Leehar wrote:Wasn't it mentioned earlier that there are should at least be 6 or 7 mafia? And we've only got 1 or 2 so far with half the guys in the game gone? I can understand wanting to lynch Vic, but why chase a 'guaranteed non-mafia' pretty much? It just seems a bit counter-productive right now?
He says hes willing to work with us, and the mafia are the real bad guys, so is it not better to move on other leads? Heck, he could just work as another distraction for the mafia since if I understand correctly he could turn some of them to cult as well?
Idk, the numbers game doesn't look good to me with only a mafia framer and maniac gone just yet, so it'd could be useful to keep a claimed third party we know around if he doesn't present a danger right now.

That number was speculated based on game size. Since we have a cult recruiter, that number must be much lower. 6 or 7 only works without 3rd party cult possibilities.


Yeah I would say 4 tops. Given all the kills there could be a SK on top of it all tho...

Are you joking, insinuating a second SK who hasn't done anything, or indicating some sort of strange parallel dimension where the serial killer didn't die night 3...? Either Way ME GUSTA :D


Right, sheep was an SK. Going out on a limb here, but the odds of their being 2 are pretty low.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby strike wolf on Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:47 pm

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edocsil wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:
Leehar wrote:Wasn't it mentioned earlier that there are should at least be 6 or 7 mafia? And we've only got 1 or 2 so far with half the guys in the game gone? I can understand wanting to lynch Vic, but why chase a 'guaranteed non-mafia' pretty much? It just seems a bit counter-productive right now?
He says hes willing to work with us, and the mafia are the real bad guys, so is it not better to move on other leads? Heck, he could just work as another distraction for the mafia since if I understand correctly he could turn some of them to cult as well?
Idk, the numbers game doesn't look good to me with only a mafia framer and maniac gone just yet, so it'd could be useful to keep a claimed third party we know around if he doesn't present a danger right now.

That number was speculated based on game size. Since we have a cult recruiter, that number must be much lower. 6 or 7 only works without 3rd party cult possibilities.


Yeah I would say 4 tops. Given all the kills there could be a SK on top of it all tho...

Are you joking, insinuating a second SK who hasn't done anything, or indicating some sort of strange parallel dimension where the serial killer didn't die night 3...? Either Way ME GUSTA :D


Right, sheep was an SK. Going out on a limb here, but the odds of their being 2 are pretty low.


Yeah I mean what are the chances he's visited Edoc every night? ;)
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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby Leehar on Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:55 pm

why were there 7 kills night 2 again?
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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby drake_259 on Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:03 pm

Leehar wrote:why were there 7 kills night 2 again?

Majority targeting PGO
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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby strike wolf on Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:11 pm

drake_259 wrote:
Leehar wrote:why were there 7 kills night 2 again?

Majority targeting PGO


Majority targeting PGO and I wouldn't be surprised if Nag redirected someone to hit the PGO.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby Commander9 on Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:28 am

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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby Leehar on Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:16 am

Is that Reeves?
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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:46 pm

This bump is one more step to wresting power from the bourgeois.

Seriously, what's the deal? This game is dying, and I don't think Mets' procrastination is helping the thread. I tried to add some diversity to his choices, but I can only do so much... no one else seems to be saying anything.

So for options, we've got Victor or my somewhat inconclusive case against JenBroness/usAir. Or Mets can let the deadline lapse, and he'll be auto-lynched. I'm quite confused about that, because pcm said three days in the original day scene, but the next post, he said "if I impose a deadline."

Anyway, Mets or pcm need to do something, or this game will just get slower and slower. I think everyone has already spoken their piece.

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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby chapcrap on Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:10 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:This bump is one more step to wresting power from the bourgeois.

Seriously, what's the deal? This game is dying, and I don't think Mets' procrastination is helping the thread. I tried to add some diversity to his choices, but I can only do so much... no one else seems to be saying anything.

So for options, we've got Victor or my somewhat inconclusive case against JenBroness/usAir. Or Mets can let the deadline lapse, and he'll be auto-lynched. I'm quite confused about that, because pcm said three days in the original day scene, but the next post, he said "if I impose a deadline."

Anyway, Mets or pcm need to do something, or this game will just get slower and slower. I think everyone has already spoken their piece.

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As far as getting things going, I tried to bait PCM in another mafia game by saying that this one was way past the deadline. Who knows if it will work.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby pancakemix on Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:32 am

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Anyway, Mets or pcm need to do something, or this game will just get slower and slower. I think everyone has already spoken their piece.


Indeed. (I do prefer a hands-off approach to moderating, though.)

Deadline is set for Christmas Eve @ 11:59 pm (ET)

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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby edocsil on Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:43 am

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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby Leehar on Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:47 am

Yes

And if I can ask, whats with all the accepted challenges Chap?
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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby Metsfanmax on Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:07 am

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:This bump is one more step to wresting power from the bourgeois.

Seriously, what's the deal? This game is dying, and I don't think Mets' procrastination is helping the thread. I tried to add some diversity to his choices, but I can only do so much... no one else seems to be saying anything.

So for options, we've got Victor or my somewhat inconclusive case against JenBroness/usAir. Or Mets can let the deadline lapse, and he'll be auto-lynched. I'm quite confused about that, because pcm said three days in the original day scene, but the next post, he said "if I impose a deadline."

Anyway, Mets or pcm need to do something, or this game will just get slower and slower. I think everyone has already spoken their piece.

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If I may speak without an air of hesitation, the case against Victor is without any real substance whatsoever. Not a single soul has offered evidence as to why the accused would voluntarily walk himself to the gallows by admitting his guilt. I would gladly send that man to meet his maker, in the true conviction of Bruce Springsteen. However, I believe this gap in the logic needs to be addressed: all that has been offered is advice regarding what to do now that he has admitted his status. I am not so easily convinced. Victor may be a poor Mafia player, but he is not that poor.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [15/31] Day 5 - I Don't Always Finish My

Postby strike wolf on Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:42 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:This bump is one more step to wresting power from the bourgeois.

Seriously, what's the deal? This game is dying, and I don't think Mets' procrastination is helping the thread. I tried to add some diversity to his choices, but I can only do so much... no one else seems to be saying anything.

So for options, we've got Victor or my somewhat inconclusive case against JenBroness/usAir. Or Mets can let the deadline lapse, and he'll be auto-lynched. I'm quite confused about that, because pcm said three days in the original day scene, but the next post, he said "if I impose a deadline."

Anyway, Mets or pcm need to do something, or this game will just get slower and slower. I think everyone has already spoken their piece.

-Tails


If I may speak without an air of hesitation, the case against Victor is without any real substance whatsoever. Not a single soul has offered evidence as to why the accused would voluntarily walk himself to the gallows by admitting his guilt. I would gladly send that man to meet his maker, in the true conviction of Bruce Springsteen. However, I believe this gap in the logic needs to be addressed: all that has been offered is advice regarding what to do now that he has admitted his status. I am not so easily convinced. Victor may be a poor Mafia player, but he is not that poor.


Victor did not admit to being the cult recruiter. Edoc who to have been recruited said he was at which point victor decided to admit it. If memory serves victor has also said he lost Edoc as a recruit BUT CAN STILL RECRUIT. If that is not grounds for lynching victor than I don't know what is.
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