Get Rich from the Bank [5/12] Town Wins!

[Leehar]

I'm gonna read up a bit more since I've just now remembered there was a huge debacle between Rodion and IB (not sure if it was this game or another, but the modkill mentioned in the OP suggests this one.), but could you fast-track me about why I should? Not wanting to cause more trouble, just want to make sure everythings on the up and up since I want to avoid mass-claiming in another game where there's still half the peops left after watching that as the cause of death for the town in Interesting Mafia by Mob Deadly

If I'm understanding correctly, since there were 2 mafia and a 3rd party in the first half of the game, it stands to reason there's a similar amount left in the remaining game? ie 2 mafia? Therefore, if we lynch the wrong person today, and they kill someone at night, it's endgame? And thats the reason for the urgency?

[MoB Deadly]

I will post you a synopsis when I have some time Leehar

[Iron Butterfly]

I'm gonna read up a bit more since I've just now remembered there was a huge debacle between Rodion and IB (not sure if it was this game or another, but the modkill mentioned in the OP suggests this one.), but could you fast-track me about why I should? Not wanting to cause more trouble, just want to make sure everythings on the up and up since I want to avoid mass-claiming in another game where there's still half the peops left after watching that as the cause of death for the town in Interesting Mafia by Mob Deadly

If I'm understanding correctly, since there were 2 mafia and a 3rd party in the first half of the game, it stands to reason there's a similar amount left in the remaining game? ie 2 mafia? Therefore, if we lynch the wrong person today, and they kill someone at night, it's endgame? And thats the reason for the urgency?

LOL...well at least he talks more then Deuce.

Halfway through reading this post I expected him to say "Riddle me this Batman."

[Sundog308]

Could you explain why you chose Jonty as your target?

He was mafia.

Best response so far to a question in this game.

Leehar, the argument between IB and Rodion really doesn't have much relevance to the game. The only clues you could pick up from it are probably other people's posts in response to the argument.

I do appreciate your comment about wanting to make sure you cover all the bases before rushing. I think we've all kinda forgotten that there is still 50% of the population alive. With the mod kill, the double night kill and Deuces being virtually silent it's really felt like we were down to the last night in this game.

[MoB Deadly]

sundog, since you posted and missed it: are you willing to shoot leitz today if we get town consensus?

[Leitz]

sundog, since you posted and missed it: are you willing to shoot leitz today if we get town consensus?

On that note, who prefers it that Sundog kills me or who prefers he shoots Iron Butterfly?

[Iron Butterfly]

sundog, since you posted and missed it: are you willing to shoot leitz today if we get town consensus?

On that note, who prefers it that Sundog kills me or who prefers he shoots Iron Butterfly?

Lietz is the biggest potential threat. However it does not matter as Dundog is lieing and his role is a fake. His only course is to try and vote someone lynched under the guise of "its in the best interest of town if he doesnt use his ability". Without Sundogs ability we can only vote and we need to vote lietz. We can not take a chance he is a serial killer.

if town can not get a 4 person vote and a deadline is imposed we are screwed.

[Leitz]

I've revealed my role, why do you still think I'm a Serial Killer? Because MoB smartly put that in your head. I highly doubt there is a Serial Killer in this game. With 3 mafia + 1/2 third party players this game is pretty balanced. Another 3rd party, especially Serial Killer, is very unlikely. I can't explain the knife thing because there is simply no flavor like that in my PM! If you're going to let Sundog kill me (if he can of course) you're losing a possible role blocker that can be useful in N3.

[MoB Deadly]

...... actually you are right........ that would be ridiculous.... Haha sorry now after I was 100% convinced last night I am backtracking a little.........

3 mafia + poisoner + sk in a 12 player game? How is that even possible?!?!

However.. this will be the first time I have ever heard of a townie attacking with a knife. And it would make sense that you would lie about not targetting PCM.

And as IB posted, with 3 killers and we havent even discovered a healing role or bus driver? The mod has me stumped...

Catnip says she has new info to provide for us, I think she should give it.....

Leitz vote patterns also tell me he is anti-town. First the vote was on me, now hes shifting attention to IB. Can you please remind me or link up why you think IB is scum? I have taken IB out of the debate due to the debate he had with Rodion.........

Does anyone have any clue who else could have targeted PCM? That could help Leitz case a lot.

[Leehar]

I'm actually pretty sad I don't have the initial pm's between Deuce and pcm, otherwise I probably could've shed some light on what he was doing as well

[Leitz]

...... actually you are right........ that would be ridiculous.... Haha sorry now after I was 100% convinced last night I am backtracking a little.........

3 mafia + poisoner + sk in a 12 player game? How is that even possible?!?!

However.. this will be the first time I have ever heard of a townie attacking with a knife. And it would make sense that you would lie about not targetting PCM.

And as IB posted, with 3 killers and we havent even discovered a healing role or bus driver? The mod has me stumped...

Catnip says she has new info to provide for us, I think she should give it.....

Leitz vote patterns also tell me he is anti-town. First the vote was on me, now hes shifting attention to IB. Can you please remind me or link up why you think IB is scum? I have taken IB out of the debate due to the debate he had with Rodion.........

Does anyone have any clue who else could have targeted PCM? That could help Leitz case a lot.

I'm not shifting attention to IB. I don't believe IB is scum, not anymore I don't. I'm doubting Sundogs claim is correct so that's why I've decided to go with IBs plan of letting him day kill IB. Why make him kill me as I still have a role block available for N3? That's really silly if you ask me.

As said before, I believe there is one more mafia running around. If Sundog is not willing to shoot I say we lynch him. If he does then we will find out more and we can continue this day with some extra information.

MoB, could you show me the post where it mentions PCM was targeted by two people please?

[Iron Butterfly]

...... actually you are right........ that would be ridiculous.... Haha sorry now after I was 100% convinced last night I am backtracking a little.........

3 mafia + poisoner + sk in a 12 player game? How is that even possible?!?!

However.. this will be the first time I have ever heard of a townie attacking with a knife. And it would make sense that you would lie about not targetting PCM.

And as IB posted, with 3 killers and we havent even discovered a healing role or bus driver? The mod has me stumped...

Catnip says she has new info to provide for us, I think she should give it.....

Leitz vote patterns also tell me he is anti-town. First the vote was on me, now hes shifting attention to IB. Can you please remind me or link up why you think IB is scum? I have taken IB out of the debate due to the debate he had with Rodion.........

Does anyone have any clue who else could have targeted PCM? That could help Leitz case a lot.

I'm not shifting attention to IB. I don't believe IB is scum, not anymore I don't. I'm doubting Sundogs claim is correct so that's why I've decided to go with IBs plan of letting him day kill IB. Why make him kill me as I still have a role block available for N3? That's really silly if you ask me.

As said before, I believe there is one more mafia running around. If Sundog is not willing to shoot I say we lynch him. If he does then we will find out more and we can continue this day with some extra information.

MoB, could you show me the post where it mentions PCM was targeted by two people please?

If you can roleblock it would still not prevent someone from being able to Nightkill. If SD and I where dead you would only be able to block Cat. That wouldnt stop a knoght kill either way.While it is safe to assume Cat is Dr. Cat needs to claim so we are 100% sure. There is no reason for her not to claim.

[Leitz]

I can block MoB too..

[MoB Deadly]

At first I thought Leitz was clear. I went back to Scene number two, and Jonty was killed with a knife. Did peak my interest because its common knowledge that Serial Killers kill with knives. So I double checked myself and went back to Night 1:

The attacker manager to get close to his target before he could give him his shot, he was taken down by another.

Pancakemix “Husband Eric” 3rd Party Poisoner, Lover has been killed.

So. It is clear that Leitz (or someone) also gets credit for the kill on PCM. I am almost certain Leitz and Sundog are scum at this point.

If sundog wanted to prove his innocence, he should kill Leitz.

unvote vote leitz

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[catnipdreams]

I am “Account Manager” Town Mirror. When I target someone at night, all actions directed at the person I target are reflected back to the senders of those actions. I targeted Rodion on night one, and Leitz on night two.

That is why I wanted to understand about the weapons used - did Leitz indeed make a kill, or, was an attempt made on him that was reflected back on the initiator? I can not use my role to protect myself, so I assume I will be killed tonight, unless Leitz is telling the truth, and opts to protect me tonight. I can of course protect him tonight as well, or someone else.

[Iron Butterfly]

THAT is unexpected.

[Iron Butterfly]

It is a protective role. Better then a doc as it protects And reflects, which would be needed in a crazy game like this.

[MoB Deadly]

I am “Account Manager” Town Mirror. When I target someone at night, all actions directed at the person I target are reflected back to the senders of those actions. I targeted Rodion on night one, and Leitz on night two.

Leitz is a liar.

Sundog kill Leitz.

[MoB Deadly]

Or catnip has us fooled.

But compared with ALL the other things that dont match up with Leitz, Leitz has to be lying.

[MoB Deadly]

oh nononnnnoono sorry I jumped the gun

[MoB Deadly]

I apologize, Catnip's info actually doesnt help us at all. She would have to of targeted JONTY on Night 2 to prove Leitz was lying. Apologies Leitz

[Iron Butterfly]

may be out of action tonight and tommorrow as I have bad computer virus. I will need to re format comp

[Iron Butterfly]

OK. If Sundog refuses to use his ability he needs to be lynched.

If Sundog does use his ability common sense would dictate he should take our Lietz weather he is town or Mafia.

While the isue of game balance should tell us that there would not be a serial killer present, from an insurance standpoint it would be prudent to target Lietz just in case. the scenario would play out just the same if lietz would turn up innocent. We would still be able to vote Mob during the day and that would end it.

If Sundog targets me and he is able to do as he states and I turn up innocent AND if Lietz is a srial killer Town can not win.Unvote Lietz Vote Sundog

[MoB Deadly]

sure we can, the game doesnt go to night since sundog used his ability. Me and catnip could lynch leitz

[Iron Butterfly]

sure we can, the game doesnt go to night since sundog used his ability. Me and catnip could lynch leitz

Two people died. Lietz killed one of them. If sundog uses his ability on me and we both turn innocent out of Lietz, Cat and your self , who would you expect the second killer to be?