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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?

Postby danfrank on Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:59 am

This map is very cool ,, Nice job, I have been waiting patiently for a high count territory map .. I have two suggestions .. The west half of the map is pretty tight with the size of the territories and how the circles lie within in them,, There appears to be room to squeeze the central front and the west side of the eastern front.. But instead of doing that .. Why not just number the territories or letter them like wwii gazala and battle of actium.. That way space is saved by not having territory name in the area. My other suggestion is.. Since this map is so big ( why is scrolling side to side not an option ) why not increase the time for speed game turns on this map alone.. The size alone kind of dictates that this game will not be decided in a few rounds so adding a minute or two to speed rounds so the player can scroll back and forth may be an alternative to shrinking the map...
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?

Postby Qwert on Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:53 am

danfrank,if you have solutin then show me visualy. ;)
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?

Postby Qwert on Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:52 am

more comments on present images ;)
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?

Postby sam_levi_11 on Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:45 am

not much to say except sum1 get the f*ck on with the size problem
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?

Postby sam_levi_11 on Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:50 am

world 2.1 is about twice as big so why cant this be englarged so its less cramped?

also why is the american flag there, this is EUROPE. why no have the russian, british and german.
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?

Postby The Viking on Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:57 am

I think the borders in Central Europe need some work, they're pixelly right now.

I think you should add some shade and stuff on the territories of Central Europe like you've done on the West and East fronts.

Is Karelia a no continent territory? Is Karelia really necessary at all?
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?

Postby Qwert on Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:50 am

by sam_levi_11 on Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:50 pm

world 2.1 is about twice as big so why cant this be englarged so its less cramped?

also why is the american flag there, this is EUROPE. why no have the russian, british and german.

Well i ask to give me 700px like World 2.1 small map have,but they dont want to give me.

American Flag?THese is World War II,and you have other flags to.

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I think the borders in Central Europe need some work, they're pixelly right now.

I think you should add some shade and stuff on the territories of Central Europe like you've done on the West and East fronts.

Is Karelia a no continent territory? Is Karelia really necessary at all?
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I can work these later.
Karelia its necessary,its a part of Eastern Front(battle for Leningrad).
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?

Postby edbeard on Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:28 pm

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seems o k.

I still say it'd be a lot better if you either

1. numbered every territory

2. followed the waterloo route and gave numbers to the territories and like someone else said put the letters matching the continent in front of those letters.

but the way you have it isn't bad


lets see this with the 888 and maybe even the large version.

I think the map can get stickied/moved to the foundry soon
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?

Postby Qwert on Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:50 pm

well aim all ready have present map with triple 8,but if you not notice i can show you again.

you can notice that even if i put only first letter,they dont have inflyence on 3 digit overlap.But 2 digit can fit good,and if he alove that 2 digit is enough for test,then we are in horse.
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?

Postby edbeard on Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:09 pm

qwert wrote:well aim all ready have present map with triple 8,but if you not notice i can show you again.

you can notice that even if i put only first letter,they dont have inflyence on 3 digit overlap.But 2 digit can fit good,and if he alove that 2 digit is enough for test,then we are in horse.


I had seen that before, but as you can see there's only part of the map filled and many of them only have 88 on them.


I really don't know what the second part of your post is saying.


Anyway, there's still some little parts that could be better.

1. CLF and Lyon could be moved so you can tell which is which

2. move the Gen. circle to the left otherwise that 888 will overlap.

3. to be honest there's quite of few of these that will become evident when you actually put 888 on all the circles. If you do that, then you can see where the problems are and move the circle and labels accordingly. It's not easy and it'll be tedious but that comes with having such a large map. good luck.


I think it's very important to do this now because of the spacing issues. Get all the spacing done and then gameplay talk can happen.
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?

Postby Qwert on Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:35 pm

3. to be honest there's quite of few of these that will become evident when you actually put 888 on all the circles. If you do that, then you can see where the problems are and move the circle and labels accordingly. It's not easy and it'll be tedious but that comes with having such a large map. good luck.

If you realy want to be honest,then you will see that its not posible to put 3 digit and to not overlap with other numbers(just look Italy,i put two digit,because he can fit,but 3 digit can not fit).
Anyway,you have map without Names and circles,and you can try also to put 3 digit,and you will figure that is quit digiculty to put 3 digit to not overlap.Only two digit can fit good.
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?

Postby edbeard on Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:05 pm

they can fit. you just have to move things around. I realize it's annoying and tedious but I'm not going to do it for you.


If you want the map to move along, then you need to do it. It can work and I know you can do it. There's plenty of space.
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-13update 14 dec) solve size problem?

Postby Qwert on Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:40 am

ok,now maybe these is good.
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-25 update 13jun ) SOLVE SIZE PROBLEM

Postby edbeard on Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:35 pm

bravo!
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-25 update 13jun ) SOLVE SIZE PROBLEM

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:04 pm

Is the Siegfried Defense missing coordinates?


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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-25 update 13jun ) SOLVE SIZE PROBLEM

Postby edbeard on Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:34 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Is the Siegfried Defense missing coordinates?


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inset on the top right of the map
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-25 update 13jun ) SOLVE SIZE PROBLEM

Postby Qwert on Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:44 am

by AndyDufresne on Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:04 am

Is the Siegfried Defense missing coordinates?


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No,i just use Inset of Sigfried Defence,because dont have space in Main map. I realy dont belive that you dont see where Is Siegried Defense area.
I must say that these not whas easy,and all numbers not touch each other numbers.Ofcourse i belive that 90% of terittories not be filled with 3 digit numbers.So its these good for pass to main Foundry?(Idea stamp)
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-25 update 13jun ) SOLVE SIZE PROBLEM

Postby Kaplowitz on Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:07 am

I think it would be a lot easier if you made Siegfrield one big territory.
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-25 update 13jun ) SOLVE SIZE PROBLEM

Postby AndyDufresne on Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:22 pm

I didn't notice because you don't use bigimage tags or you don't put your text before the image (thus it gets obscured by the avatar and name, etc). ;)


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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-25 update 13jun ) SOLVE SIZE PROBLEM

Postby Qwert on Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:57 pm

by Kaplowitz on Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:07 pm

I think it would be a lot easier if you made Siegfrield one big territory.

I explane these once,so its no point to bring these sugestion again.

by AndyDufresne on Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:22 pm

I didn't notice because you don't use bigimage tags or you don't put your text before the image (thus it gets obscured by the avatar and name, etc).


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I dont use Bigimg,because i see all map without these,and its look that Edbeard also see all image.
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-25 update 13jun ) SOLVE SIZE PROBLEM

Postby edbeard on Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:27 pm

qwert wrote:
by AndyDufresne on Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:22 pm

I didn't notice because you don't use bigimage tags or you don't put your text before the image (thus it gets obscured by the avatar and name, etc).


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I dont use Bigimg,because i see all map without these,and its look that Edbeard also see all image.


I have a widescreen laptop so I can see everything.


Also, bigimg is required so if someone's having a problem, it'd probably help them if you used it.

I don't understand how 'text before image' will help but it doesn't seem like a difficult thing to do!
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-25 update 13jun ) SOLVE SIZE PROBLEM

Postby Qwert on Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:42 pm

I have a widescreen laptop so I can see everything.


Also, bigimg is required so if someone's having a problem, it'd probably help them if you used it.

I don't understand how 'text before image' will help but it doesn't seem like a difficult thing to do!

Problem for Andy?! :lol:


These second i also not understand :?
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-25 update 13jun ) SOLVE SIZE PROBLEM

Postby AndyDufresne on Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:06 pm

On some monitors, when you just use the image tags, the image over laps onto the avatar, name, post count...but all that gets displayed on the map. But if you put enough text before the image, it pushes the image down so it overlaps onto an empty space. :D Hope that makes sense.

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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-25 update 13jun ) SOLVE SIZE PROBLEM

Postby edbeard on Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:23 pm

if you have BOB you can move the avatar and all that good stuff to the left side (WHICH IS THE CORRECT SIDE BTW)
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-25 update 13jun ) SOLVE SIZE PROBLEM

Postby InkL0sed on Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:32 pm

This map is ridiculous. I think I mean that in a good way.
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