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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby josko.ri on Mon May 10, 2021 12:51 pm

S&M participated in multiple random leagues where TOFU and THOTA didnt thus why we are ranked slightly below. Random leagues with sets of best-of-12 are the easiest way to lose ranking. Even this year FALL went ahead of S&M because FALL avoided participation in random league where S&M lost ranking points.

But i agree this list isa good representative of top 10 ever. LHDD had only one surge in their performance but in their old days they were just average clan.
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby Donelladan on Mon May 10, 2021 5:18 pm

Yes well, we didn't start as a top clan.
We built the clan slowly and went up after a few years, that's why the ranking with no decay isn't nice on us.
Nothing wrong with that.

Btw A^ is so high because ATN result aren't included since A^ is considered a new clan. That cut them some loss on that ranking.
Clans that start with an experienced and organized rooster would perform high on such ranking.

I find the weight also interesting to look at, gives an hindsight on clan longevity and activity. Like despite being inactive for a while TNC still has the 2nd highest weight.
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby JPlo64 on Mon May 10, 2021 6:56 pm

Yeah, in reference to A^ being too high at this point;
These rankings are an average score of all your war results. Not who has the most good results.
So A^ is high because they very quickly became a strong clan and have not fallen off.
S&M and TOFU are high b/c they have been so consistently elite, where as FALL and LHDD had slower build up to elite in their time. Even if FALL or LHDD would have a long stretch of #1, they may not overcome S&M and TOFU becuase of the success they had so early and consistently.
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby IcePack on Mon May 10, 2021 7:04 pm

JPlo64 wrote:Yeah, in reference to A^ being too high at this point;
These rankings are an average score of all your war results. Not who has the most good results.
So A^ is high because they very quickly became a strong clan and have not fallen off.
S&M and TOFU are high b/c they have been so consistently elite, where as FALL and LHDD had slower build up to elite in their time. Even if FALL or LHDD would have a long stretch of #1, they may not overcome S&M and TOFU becuase of the success they had so early and consistently.


FALL has pretty consistently been TOP 10. (since Jan 2013, FALL was outside top 10 for two months, where they were 11 and 12th)
Since about mid 2015, they've been Top 5 for the vast majority as well.
Overall their ranks been more consistent I think then LHDD, who had both up and down periods previously.
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby IcePack on Mon May 10, 2021 7:55 pm

JPlo64 wrote:Here is D400 Rankings with practically 0 time decay, so basically a historical ranking.
Obviously this is not the best way to choose a Top 10, but maybe a little interesting.

1 TOFU 1297.6 4046.5
2 THOTA 1285.7 1042.8
3 S&M 1277.1 4698.5
4 A^ 1246.3 1060.9
5 FALL 1209.4 4488.8
6 EMP 1201.5 1686.3
7 TSM 1199.8 1713.4
8 TOP 1192.4 1418.6
9 ACE 1192.4 1464.1
10 AOC 1185.1 1318.7
show: 11-66


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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby JPlo64 on Mon May 10, 2021 9:03 pm

IcePack wrote:
JPlo64 wrote:Here is D400 Rankings with practically 0 time decay, so basically a historical ranking.
Obviously this is not the best way to choose a Top 10, but maybe a little interesting.

1 TOFU 1297.6 4046.5
2 THOTA 1285.7 1042.8
3 S&M 1277.1 4698.5
4 A^ 1246.3 1060.9
5 FALL 1209.4 4488.8
6 EMP 1201.5 1686.3
7 TSM 1199.8 1713.4
8 TOP 1192.4 1418.6
9 ACE 1192.4 1464.1
10 AOC 1185.1 1318.7
show: 11-66


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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby IcePack on Mon May 10, 2021 9:06 pm

Ah ok figured they’d have enough ty
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby IcePack on Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:31 pm

iScores

Updated the Clan Scores Ranking I had come up with to take a look at where everything currently sits.

RANK POINTS CLAN
1 142 S&M / KORT
2 113 TOFU
3 113 FALL
4 97 LHDD
5 90 FOED
6 67 OSA
7 51 LOW
8 33.5 ACE
9 30 A^
10 23 ATL

*Note: LHDD & FALL are in Finals of CC11, so both have been given 8 points (currently) since they're both guaranteed #2 minimum. The winner will get an extra 2 points added once its completed.

Note 2: I dont have a tie breaker method in place really, active clans were given priority over defunct clans. Besides that, I didn't bother organizing them in anyway if tied.
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby josko.ri on Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:43 am

IcePack wrote:iScores

Updated the Clan Scores Ranking I had come up with to take a look at where everything currently sits.

RANK POINTS CLAN
1 142 S&M / KORT
2 113 TOFU
3 113 FALL
4 97 LHDD
5 90 FOED
6 67 OSA
7 51 LOW
8 33.5 ACE
9 30 A^
10 23 ATL

*Note: LHDD & FALL are in Finals of CC11, so both have been given 8 points (currently) since they're both guaranteed #2 minimum. The winner will get an extra 2 points added once its completed.

Note 2: I dont have a tie breaker method in place really, active clans were given priority over defunct clans. Besides that, I didn't bother organizing them in anyway if tied.

I think Atlantis should have score 24. Please double check.
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby IcePack on Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:54 am

josko.ri wrote:
IcePack wrote:iScores

Updated the Clan Scores Ranking I had come up with to take a look at where everything currently sits.

RANK POINTS CLAN
1 142 S&M / KORT
2 113 TOFU
3 113 FALL
4 97 LHDD
5 90 FOED
6 67 OSA
7 51 LOW
8 33.5 ACE
9 30 A^
10 23 ATL

*Note: LHDD & FALL are in Finals of CC11, so both have been given 8 points (currently) since they're both guaranteed #2 minimum. The winner will get an extra 2 points added once its completed.

Note 2: I dont have a tie breaker method in place really, active clans were given priority over defunct clans. Besides that, I didn't bother organizing them in anyway if tied.

I think Atlantis should have score 24. Please double check.


Nope looks like 23 is correct second tab shows all events and sums it unless you see an event that’s entered wrong
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby IcePack on Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:40 pm

Updated with the FALL Win of CC11

iScores

Updated the Clan Scores Ranking I had come up with to take a look at where everything currently sits.

RANK POINTS CLAN
1 142 S&M / KORT
2 115 FALL
3 113 TOFU
4 97 LHDD
5 90 FOED
6 67 OSA
7 51 LOW
8 33.5 ACE
9 30 A^
10 23 ATL

*Note: LHDD & FALL are in Finals of CC11, so both have been given 8 points (currently) since they're both guaranteed #2 minimum. The winner will get an extra 2 points added once its completed.

Note 2: I dont have a tie breaker method in place really, active clans were given priority over defunct clans. Besides that, I didn't bother organizing them in anyway if tied.
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby ElricTheGreat on Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:34 am

IcePack, I would like to bring to your attention that FOED and OSA are moving forward as ONE amazing team.

Please update the list accordingly moving us into #1 @ 157 total points.

Thank you for your attention!

Elric

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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby GoranZ on Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:50 am

ElricTheGreat wrote:IcePack, I would like to bring to your attention that FOED and OSA are moving forward as ONE amazing team.

Please update the list accordingly moving us into #1 @ 157 total points.

Thank you for your attention!

Elric

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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby IcePack on Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:00 am

ElricTheGreat wrote:IcePack, I would like to bring to your attention that FOED and OSA are moving forward as ONE amazing team.

Please update the list accordingly moving us into #1 @ 157 total points.

Thank you for your attention!

Elric

:o :roll: :lol:


Pretty simple process, if OSA is joining FOED, then you’re still just FOED.
If OSA & FOED are merging and starting new, you’re starting new.
You can’t combine two histories like that, but good luck :)
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby ElricTheGreat on Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:13 am

IcePack wrote:
ElricTheGreat wrote:IcePack, I would like to bring to your attention that FOED and OSA are moving forward as ONE amazing team.

Please update the list accordingly moving us into #1 @ 157 total points.

Thank you for your attention!

Elric

:o :roll: :lol:


Pretty simple process, if OSA is joining FOED, then you’re still just FOED.
If OSA & FOED are merging and starting new, you’re starting new.
You can’t combine two histories like that, but good luck :)
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby uckuki on Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:32 pm

and we bzzzzzzz
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby Chariot of Fire on Sat Jul 05, 2025 3:13 pm

Interesting read. A lot of history here. Pre-2009 the foremost clans were undoubtedly THOTA and LOW, with THOTA the undisputed masters and LOW their closest rivals. It came to a head in April 2009 when THOTA beat LOW by just one game in a good old-fashioned challenge (do we even have those any more?) and the telling game was Game 4688751 when LOW's Prankcall completely f'd up his turn despite the best advices of me and chard which would have won us the game and the overall challenge. I was so livid I left LOW, taking my crew with me, and started TOFU. LOW never really recovered after that and slipped down (the non-existent) ranking, but they definitely deserve recognition for being a strong #2 back in their day.
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby SoN!c on Sat Jul 05, 2025 5:22 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:Interesting read. A lot of history here. Pre-2009 the foremost clans were undoubtedly THOTA and LOW, with THOTA the undisputed masters and LOW their closest rivals. It came to a head in April 2009 when THOTA beat LOW by just one game in a good old-fashioned challenge (do we even have those any more?) and the telling game was Game 4688751 when LOW's Prankcall completely f'd up his turn despite the best advices of me and chard which would have won us the game and the overall challenge. I was so livid I left LOW, taking my crew with me, and started TOFU. LOW never really recovered after that and slipped down (the non-existent) ranking, but they definitely deserve recognition for being a strong #2 back in their day.


So you getting LOW and a few ToFU behind you and then some is the plan to re-ignite ToFu? Don't get me wrong. All the clans involved these days are top notch but ToFu had some legendary status if you ask me. O:)
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby reptile on Sun Jul 06, 2025 2:13 am

Chariot of Fire wrote:Interesting read. A lot of history here. Pre-2009 the foremost clans were undoubtedly THOTA and LOW, with THOTA the undisputed masters and LOW their closest rivals. It came to a head in April 2009 when THOTA beat LOW by just one game in a good old-fashioned challenge (do we even have those any more?) and the telling game was Game 4688751 when LOW's Prankcall completely f'd up his turn despite the best advices of me and chard which would have won us the game and the overall challenge. I was so livid I left LOW, taking my crew with me, and started TOFU. LOW never really recovered after that and slipped down (the non-existent) ranking, but they definitely deserve recognition for being a strong #2 back in their day.


I didn't know all the details there, I wondered what happened. In any case, as I was in LoW, our goal was to dethrone THOTA. We handled everyone else pretty well back then and finally got our shot at THOTA and just couldn't get them. As far as I am concerned (as a CC member since....2006) , THOTA are the CC champs. It was a lot of fun being on the other side trying to take their squad down though. I played a lot of friendly games with their guys and respected their play a ton. Back in those days, the only tournaments were created by CC members, they were the highlight of my CC career. Lots of team tournaments and everyone would represent their clans and earn respect for their clan with each victory.

In any case, I think TOFU was the first clan to finally knock THOTA off their pedestal.
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby niMic on Tue Jul 08, 2025 7:00 am

reptile wrote:In any case, I think TOFU was the first clan to finally knock THOTA off their pedestal.


That'd be KORT. I was there, though I don't think I was helping very much.
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby fishydance on Tue Jul 08, 2025 9:57 am

niMic wrote:
reptile wrote:In any case, I think TOFU was the first clan to finally knock THOTA off their pedestal.


That'd be KORT. I was there, though I don't think I was helping very much.


Yes, at least in the Cup games. Here's the official results:
In January 2010, Chuuuuck started the first Annual Conqueror's Cup. It was obviously a success, since then we have had one (almost) every year. Over the years we have had some minor changes to the format. For 2016 (CC6) the clan department revamped the tournament to keep the duration down to about a year. The basics have remained the same for the past 13 years though. Now, in 2024, we run the 14th edition!

2010: CC1 - TO: Chuuuuck - Clans: 17; KORT beat THOTA in the final. MVP: none
2011: CC2 - TO: Chuuuuck - Clans: 29; KORT beat TSM in the final. MVP: none
2012: CC3 - TO: Chuuuuck > Dako - Clans: 33; TOFU beat AFOS in the final. MVP: Chariot of Fire
2013: CC4 - TO: Chemefreak - Clans: 34; KORT beat TOFU in the final. MVP: josko.ri
2014: CC5 - TO: Chemefreak > Keefie - Clans: 30; FALL beat TOFU in the final. MVP: IcePack
2016: CC6 - TO: Lindax > Keefie - Clans: 23; TOFU beat FALL in the final. MVP: rockfist
2017: CC7 - TO: Lindax > Keefie - Clans: 21; S&M beat FALL in the final. MVP: davekettering
2018: CC8 - TO: Keefie > Lindax - Clans: 19; TOFU beat LHDD in the final. MVP: rockfist
2019: CC9 - TO: Lindax - Clans: 18; LHDD beat FOED in the final. MVP: Donelladan
2020: CCX - TO: Lindax - Clans: 15; S&M beat TOFU in the final. MVP: Josko.ri
2021: CCXI - TO: Shoop76 > JPlo64 - Clans: 16; FALL beat LHDD in the final. MVP: rcfritz
2022: CCXII - TO: JPlo64 - Clans: 12; S&M beat A^ in the final. MVP: ballenus
2023: CCXIII - TO: Caymanmew - Clans: 13; TOFU beat FALL in the final. MVP: Caymanmew
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby TrafalgarLaw01 on Tue Jul 08, 2025 2:53 pm

This is pretty much outdated.

I did some ranking just taking into account CC, CL and RL.

For CC: Winner 10p, Runner-up 7p - Semis - 4p
CL: Winner: 8p, Second 6p and 3rd - 4p
Rl: Winner 6p, Second 4p and 3rd 2p

This is what I got:
OLDS 156
TOFU 135
FALL 113
LHDD 86
A^ 55
FOED 47
OSA 28
THOTA 23
LOW 22
REP 21
ACE 18
TSM 15
IA 14
ATL 14
AFOS 11
AOC 10
EMP 8
ACES 8
TOP 6
MD 6
ID 4
DYN 4
PIG 2
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby IcePack on Tue Jul 08, 2025 5:09 pm

^ very similar to my iScore ranking syatem
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Re: Top 10 Clans of All Time

Postby Chariot of Fire on Tue Jul 08, 2025 7:09 pm

Never heard of OLDS. Who are they and how do they get #1 status?

And in which year was it TOFU beat KORT but they elected to penalise TOFU a -20 game penalty for one mistaken game? A decision that will live in infamy and should be corrected :;
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